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Is God With America?
Our book – Is God With America? – will be of great Whole Truth Help to you as well. America, the nation birthed by Christian Pilgrims, has been ravaged by pagan ideologies and philosophies.

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Modern Christianity Corrupted
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Father's Press is proud to announce the release of Pastor-Evangelist Bob Klingenberg's powerful and urgently needed new book entitled Modern Christianity Corrupted. It is a Martin Luther call, clear, overdue and thoroughly Biblical, for a “New Reformation” in the 21st century.
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Table of Contents

  • Flocking Away From The Church Pt. 4
  • Flocking Away from the Church, Pt. 3
  • Flocking Away From The Chruch Pt. 2
  • Flocking Away From The Church Pt. 1
  • The Socialization of America
  • A Miracle Light - Finding Our Way Home
  • 2009 - Out With A Bang!
  • Quality of Life - Sanctity of Life
  • The Glorious Emptying of Christmas, Pt. 1
  • The Glorious Emptying of Christmas, Pt. 2
  • The World's Wisdom - Utter Folly
  • Self-Interest Over Truth
  • Pastor Killers and Church Splitters
  • The Spouse Seducer's Strategies Pt. 1
  • The Spouse Seducer's Strategies Pt. 2
  • The Passion of the Vanguard, Pt. 1
  • The Passion of the Vanguard, Part. 2
  • Home Is Where They Love You
  • Prosperity's Purposes and Perils, Pt. 1
  • Prosperity's Purposes and Perils, Part 2
  • A Seminar with Seamands, Part 1
  • Truth Talk with Backus
  • A Seminar with Seamands, Part 2
  • A Tribute To Tommy Tyson (Pt. 1)
  • A Tribute To Tommy Tyson (Pt. 2)
  • Gobbledygook About Holy Spirit Baptism
  • God's Word - Sword Or Itch Scratcher
  • God's Global Warriors
  • The Days of Shamelessness
  • The Fullness of Joy
  • The Big Ugly And The Imposter Lamb
  • Christianity And Islam - Chrislam
  • Johnny Doubtfire
  • Jeremiah's Call - Our Call
  • Escaping The Grudge Vortex
  • Agape - I Do Unconditionally
  • Agape - No Iffy Marriages
  • Agape's Miracle Marriages
  • OBAMA –VALUES VERSUS MORALS
  • OBAMA – AMERICA NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION
  • OBAMA – WHATEVER WE ONCE WERE
  • URGENTLY NEEDED – THE RIGHT PERSPECTIVE
  • America’s Workforce Betrayed
  • DEATH’S DOOR – BASEBALL GRACE – PRAYER VICE
  • Youngster - Remember Your Creator
  • No Christian Is An Island
  • Is America Sick Unto Death?
  • Flocking Away From The Chruch Pt. 2 Print E-mail
    February 06, 2010
    By Bruce Wells
    adam-tempted-by-eve.jpgsatan-tempts-eve.jpgNow that you have read Part 1 of "Flocking Away from the Church", and after having learned just a little about the church growth movement and its "new spirituality", you may find that you have questions.

    For instance, you may be asking yourself, "How could my friend, my family member, my pastor, my church (you fill in the blank) have fallen for this new age nonsense? 

    I would be remiss if I didn't state that first and foremost, spiritual blindness almost always accompanies disobedience to God's Word. Secondly, we could talk about the influence that positivism, emotionalism and psychology, play in some "pastors" watered down messages (they don't qualify to be called Biblical sermons).

    [Bob's comments and commentary are here and throughout in brackets. Third, not to mention the carnal and spoiled "I'm okay, you're okay" pew protagonists who demand that the "Bread of Life" be liberally smeared with lots of peanut butter and jelly. These are the same people who will not and cannot read books without pictures. They need sense-stimulation but cannot endure brain-stimulation, deep spiritual arousal or conscience-conviction.]

    Also, let's not forget the gullible masses of well-meaning do-gooders who, looking for purpose in their lives, are manipulated into a secular-led social serfdom, fraudulently implemented to fight the war on hunger, poverty, illiteracy, oppression, depression, diet, drugs, debt, disease and what have you; not to mention the countless self-esteem building programs that are diabolically designed and marketed to save us from ourselves and propel us into the blissful state of “living the best life now.”

    [Bruce Wells is, as the Brits say, spot-on once again. What is being preached in the Redefined Church is not only a social gospel, but the emphasis on positive/possibility thinking and self-esteem has replaced old fashioned sin-conviction and repentance.

    This is lethal spiritually and morally in  churches today where people who by their televison-and-movie-consumption habits indicate that they, like dumb children, enjoy eating dirt and drinking from mud puddles.  Reality TV has replaced the reality of sin. Add to that the fact that "Secular Psychology" has replaced "Biblical Theology" and "Biblical Morality" in the pulpits of America and the world.

    I can’t let this pass by. Allow me to quote from my latest book Modern Christianity Corrupted to simply augment what Bruce has stated so powerfully. We read on page 18, “Self-esteem is the key couplet in churches where worship service and prayers of confession have been destigmatized by removing all guilt and guilt-oriented references. As in, ‘Lord, we approach Thy throne of grace having committed acts which we do heartily acknowledge must be difficult for Thee to understand. Nevertheless, we do beseech Thee to postpone judgment and to give Thy faithful servants the benefit of the doubt until such time as we are able to answer all questions fully, and clear our reputations in Heaven.’”

    I might add here before continuing with the book quotations, that the Redefined Church 's purpose today is to make the parishioners feel good about themselves, and not bad about their sins.  Church people today look strangely and pitifully on that poor, outdated smuck in the corner of the Temple over there crying out in Luke 18:13,

    "God, be merciful to me, the sinner."

    Churchy types now have a hard enough time admitting that they are "A Sinner" let alone "The Consumate Sinner." The Redefined Church, in case you haven't noticed, is on a furious positve-thinking, self-esteem crusade to shake the rap-sheet designation of "Sinner" once and for all. But try as they may, I John 1:8-9 and  I Timothy 1:18 will simply not go away. 

    You know how children butcher names and words with their half-baked, ham-tongued attempts at speech. One of my sons is named Bradford, but  his little sister Jackie couldn't say that name, and it came out Bahzood. Over the years it was shortened to Zoodie which has stuck ever since. It still comes out of us from time to time. He flows with it, as if he has a choice. No matter how the ham-tongued Redefiners try to change "Sinners" to the far less demeaning word "Sinnies" (little sinners at worst), the fact remains:

    "IN THIS WORLD WE WILL ALWAYS BE SINNERS, AND GOD'S

    GRACE WILL ALWAYS BE AMAZING."

    Then continuing on page 20, “…self-esteem is not the sacred issue in Christianity. Esteeming others and above all esteeming God are the central and sacred issues of Christianity. We are not commanded to esteem ourselves, but to highly esteem others…Romans 12:3. Man’s universal tendency is to over-esteem self, and to under-esteem others." That is why we read in Philippians 2:3,

    ‘…let each of you regard one another as more

    important than himself.’”

    Finally from page 33, “It doesn’t matter what bloodline you came from, or how smart you are, or how skinny or fat you might be. It doesn’t matter whether you are Jew or Greek, slave or free, male or female, black or white, Dutch or Hispanic. It doesn’t matter if your degree is from Harvard or Podunk U. What matters is that we are loved and held dear in the heart of God. So we read in I John 3:1,

    See how great a love the Father has bestowed upon us,

    that we should be called children of God
    .’

    GOD’S BELOVED CHILDREN! HOW GREAT IS THAT? WHO

        COULD ASK FOR ANY MORE SELF-ESTEEM THAN THAT?”

    (End of book quote.) Bruce talks about watered-down messages that don't deserve to be called Biblical sermons. The emphasis today on positive thinking and self-esteem in the church have become great secular strongholds that godly pulpits and preachers must beat down by strong, true Gospel, sin-convicting preaching, lest the cross of Christ continues to be shrunk, the blood of Jesus Christ continues to be diluted, and the consciousness of sin becomes non-existent.]

    In the end, I have come to the conclusion that there are basically two things that drive it all; and believe it or not, they are the same two things that brought about the very fall of man back in the Garden of Eden. I call them "The Two R's."

    This life we lead outside of Paradise; this carnal prison we endure day after day, waiting for our Lord's return or departure to Him, whichever may come first, is, in my estimation, more than just a well-deserved punishment, more than the natural consequences of sin and more than a mere experiential education into what is good and evil; it is the test of faith.

    You see, Eve took from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil because she wanted RESULTS, thereby setting aside the Word of God for her own desires. Adam, on the other hand, who, the Bible says, "was not deceived," knew what Eve had done and the coming consequences of her disobedience. So, being tested by the awful circumstances that lay before him; the terrible dilemma of having to choose between the woman he loved and the God he worshiped, Adam unfortunately chose to follow Eve in his desire for RELATIONSHIP rather than obeying God's Word and trusting Him for a solution.

    By attempting to save the life he loved, (his life with Eve) he lost it. His worship and service had turned from the vertical to the horizontal; and ever since that fateful day the Lord has been teaching and testing those of us who claim Him, both individually and collectively, to see if we REALLY BELIEVE HIM and are willing to take Him at His Word, even when it costs us Results and Relationships.

    [My, my, I have never seen it quite like this before. Brilliant! Oh yes, we have seen and preached it in principle, but never so succinctly and definitively as this. Awesome insights into the Word by Bruce Wells from the Genesis account of Adam and Eve’s fall into sin – RESULTS and RELATIONSHIPS!

    For a pastor in these days of the Competitive Mega-Church Frenzy  to get caught up in the numbers game (results) - counting heads in the pews, he is setting himself up for compromising the truth by telling people what they want to hear and not want they need to  hear, so as to fill up the remaining vacancies. You know, the latest craze and rage in terms of popular themes.  But then that always leaves Jesus out of the picture, for since when was Jesus ever "popular" or "the hottest thing going?" You don't kill/crucify the latest American idol now do you? Rather, you go beserk over and worship him.

    We can be so deceived like Eve was in her "RESULTS FIXATION," that we will try to sensationalize our preaching even to the point of corrupting the Word of God into a get-rich scam. $$$$ always draws crowds. A lot of razzle-dazzle, flim-flam and dollar signs with no substance of truth always brings them in, not from fields of sin, but for pots of gold. 

    Eve wanted "Divine Status," and we want "Success Status." We will try to lure them in, not with the tried and true, but with the new and the novel, for like successful businessmen we have learned that:

      "NOVELTY (THE NEW AND IMPROVED) IS ALWAYS THE

    PARENT OF SUCCESS AND EGO-PLEASURE.”

    It is a never ending addiction, as with all addictions, for:

    THE EGO-FIX AND BUZZ OF NUMERICAL GAIN AND SUCCESS

    (RESULTS) SOON EXPIRES UNTIL WE GET ANOTHER FIX

    THROUGH MORE INCREASED NUMBERS.”

    Have you ever noticed that RESULTS OBSESSIONS/ADDICTIONS in the ministry prevent us from being truly thankful to God for the people He has already blessed us with. It is amazing how that happens! I noticed in my ministry that when this addiction sunk its teeth in me, I thanked God in my life with about the same dull spirit of thanks to the woman in the dry cleaners when she handed me my cleaned and pressed pants. It was more Politeness than Passoinate thanks.

    Why have I lost my truly grateful spirit to God? That is because:

    "THE INTERVAL IS SHORT BETWEEN THAT VERY EGO-PLEASURE

    BECOMING AN EGO-BURDEN
    OF HAVING TO GROW

    SOME MORE. WE ARE THEN NEVER ABLE TO

    BE TRULY GRATEFUL FOR WHAT WE

    HAVE ALREADY BEEN GIVEN
    ."


    So then, what can I preach and do next to bring in the crowds becomes the driving force. Then we are unable to see any longer with spiritual eyes the danger that we have fallen into, or remember the principle that:

    ANY PREACHING OR PROGRAMS THAT ARE DESIGNED TO

    TICKLE THE EARS OR STROKE THE EGO WILL THWART

    THE SPIRIT AND CORRUPT THE TRUTH.”

    All of this reminds me of King David, who as any monarch or president, might well have become overwhelmed by the affairs of state, the government of his Kingdom, and the popularity polls like King Saul before him. Nothing is so powerful and perverting as a prevailing-popularity mindset. However none of these were the themes of David’s thoughts. Rather, it is best summarized by the words of David in Psalm 119:97,

    O how I love Thy law! It is my meditation all the day.”

    Oh to hear Governor Jennifer Granholm or President Barack Obama say something like that!

    When is the last time we gave a strong sermon series on the Ten Commandments in the midst of this rebellious (iniquitous) and antinomian society that has now crept into the church and cries out for sugar-daddy pastors, cotton-candy preachers, and lollipop sermons. Perhaps never, because while the silent sinners out there in the church are hooked on mammon, booze and pornography, we are more interested in growing numbers and getting our mug-picture in Google Images.

    Count on it:

    RESULTS AND RELATIONSHIPS CAN SO ENGROSS THE SOUL,

    THAT THERE IS NO ROOM LEFT FOR THE HOLY SPIRIT


    WHO COMES TO GUIDE US INTO GOD'S TRUTH

    FOR GOD'S GLORY ALONE.”

    We all must make the choice between God's Truth and God's Glory as our burning obsession, or results and relationship as our siren call to human fame and glory.]

    "So when they had eaten breakfast, Jesus said to Simon Peter,

    'Simon, son of Jonas, do you love Me more than these?' He

    said to Him, 'Yes, Lord; You know that I love You.' He

    said to him, 'Feed my lambs.'" – John 21:15

    You see, here Jesus was telling Peter: If you love Me, you'll give them the Truth, the whole Truth – My Word – "the Bread of Life," even when it is difficult, disturbing, divisive and damaging to your Results and your Relationships; implying that if you love them only or love them more than Me you’ll withhold the Truth, some of it or all of it, for the sake of Relationship.

    Aside from the spiritual, what is this life but a conglomerate of people and things that constantly stimulate our senses, emotions and appetites. And, what does the natural man do from the moment he arrives here on earth until the time he is buried beneath it; but endeavor to acquire as much of both as he possibly can!

    There's absolutely nothing wrong with enjoying Results and Relationships. They are wonderful gifts from God. It is when we give them priority over His Word; diminishing or withholding the Whole Counsel of God, so as to increase, enhance, preserve or protect them, thereby allowing otherwise good things to come between Him and us. That is when Results and Relationships become wicked obstacles and a curse to the Christian and the Body of Christ.

    "But seek first the kingdom of God, and His righteousness; and

    all these things shall be added to you." – Matthew 6:33

    [Ring-Ring-Ring! Here Bruce again rings the bell as I come running for supper – to feed on the Word of God. I have, as no doubt you have, preached many times on John 21 and Jesus’ tit-for-tat three-time question of Peter as it were to confront and mercifully cancel Peter’s three-time denial of Christ. "Simon, son of John, do you love Me? Feed my lambs. Simon, son of John, do you love Me? Feed my sheep! Simon, son of John, do you love me? Feed my sheep!"

    Let’s Get Down” as the hip crowd says today. The very first time that Jesus asked Peter, “Do you love me,” He added, “more than these?” Who or what are the “These?” I am sure that this comprehensive, undesignated pronoun “These” used by our Lord included “Results” and “Relationships.” In other words, “Peter, do you love me more than all earthly success and friendships?”

    Here we go, and boy, this is where the rubber literally pounds the pavement:

    LET NONE OF US PRETEND TO LOVE JESUS WHEN THE DESIRES

    AND FRIENDSHIPS OF PEOPLE MEAN MORE TO US THAN


    THE DEMANDS AND FRIENDSHIP OF CHRIST
    .”

    Listen now:

    WHEN THE THOUGHTS AND DEMANDS OF GOD INTERRUPT THE

    THOUGHTS AND DEMANDS OF FRIENDS DURING SERMON

    PREPARATION, THIS IS
    THE STRONG INDICATOR

    THAT WE ARE STRANGERS TO
    GOD AND

    FRIENDS WITH PEOPLE AND

    THE WORLD
    .”

    I cannot help but at this junture to quote again from Modern Christianity Corrupted and the true story of Betty Stam on page 91, where we read, "Betty Stam made her life's commitment nine years before she was martyred. She wrote in her Bible, 'Lord, I give up all my purposes and plans, and all my desires, hopes and ambitions (whether they be fleshly or soulish), and I accept Thy will for my life. I give myself, my life, my all utterly to Thee, to be Thine forever. I hand over to Thy keeping all my friendships. All the people whom I love are to take second place in my heart. Fill me with Thy Holy Spirit. Work out Thy whole will for my life, at any cost, now and forever. To me to live is Christ." *

    Going on, let this get the strongest of holds on us:

    LOVE IS ALWAYS THE BIAS OF OUR THOUGHTS AND WORDS.

    WHO AND WHAT WE REALLY LOVE WILL ALWAYS


    COMMAND AND GOVERN WHAT WE PREACH
    .”

    Peter, do you love me more than these? Feed my sheep.” To answer that question sincerely and affirmatively, we will have to be able to resoundingly say:

    THE NEED TO HONOR GOD IS INFINITELY STRONGER THAN

    THE  NEED TO RECEIVE HONOR FROM MEN
    .”

    And we might just as well get it out in the open and tell it like it is:

    WE LOVE HIM THE MOST WHO WE ARE UNWILLING TO

    DISAPPOINT EVEN IN THE LEAST
    .”

    Do we love the God of the Word and the Word of God more than earthly success and friendship? If you do, I guarantee you that while the goats in the flock will butt, oppose and finally leave your  church, your preaching and your ministry, the true sheep of the Good Shepherd will be flocking to and not flocking away from your church. They will consume your meal with gusto, and you won't have to always be handing out spiritual antacid tablets for acid and bile reflux after the sermon.]

    Today, one can easily assess the validity and faithfulness of any Christian, pastor, minister, preacher, teacher, evangelist, group, church, organization or movement by simply observing what is most important to them. If they are more concerned with Results and Relationships than proclaiming and obeying the Word of God, they are clearly failing the test of faith we all must take; and are running after the very things (good things, mind you) that separated us from the Lord in the beginning; which is why I believe Jesus left us with this warning:

    "For what profit is it to a man if he gains the whole world,

    and loses his own soul?” Matthew 16:26a

    *
    William MacDonald, "Think of Your Future," 1956, Page 37,
    (Quoted in "Were They Expendable?"By Clay Cooper, Brown
    Gold Publications, Chico, CA, Page 3) Walterick Publishing
    Ministries, Inc., Olathe, Kansas - Used By Permission

     

    bruce_wells.jpg[Coming soon in the series by Bruce Wells is "Flocking Away from the Church, Part 3: The Herd Mentality.” Don’t miss a word of it, as it will rattle your bones and shake up your mind. Everything that can be shaken will be shaken, so that what is of God in us will remain.]

    In His strong love,
    Bruce
    Matthew 22:37

     
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